Friday, October 2, 2015

Brahmin population in India - An Analysis

Brahmin population in India - An Analysis

In this article I will talk about some facts and figures related to Brahmin population in India. My analysis shows that Brahmins are less than 5% of India's population and are hence a true minority community whose traditions and cultures are under threat from communists/ leftists, Islamists, Islamo-facists, Church fundamentalists and pseudo-secularists.

Background
Brahmins are a minority community in India in terms of numbers and percentages. Yet they receive no reservation benefits from the Government. 

Not only do they not get any benefits, they are discriminated against by the governments (both State Governments as well as Central Government) who instead give benefits in terms of education and jobs to Scheduled Castes (SC), Scheduled Tribes (ST), Other Backward Classes (OBC) and Muslims who are more in number than Brahmins.

Officially there is no published data on Brahmin population, so we must rely on data published by surveys and (ironically) anti-Hindu Christian Church bodies like Joshua Project and the likes.

Joshua Project, which is an anti-India and anti-Hindu Christian Church initiative to convert all Hindus to Christians, has meticulously compiled caste wise data of all Indians and shared them on their website, to facilitate easy targeting and conversion.

I have used 2011 Census data along with Joshua Project state-wise Brahmin data for my analysis. 

Demographics of India
As per my analysis, below is the demographics of India in terms of caste and religious groups.

Brahmin population in India - Census 2011 Joshua Project
  • Other Backward Castes/ Classes (OBC)(4) - 32%
  • Scheduled Castes(2) - 16.2%
  • Muslims(1) - 14.2% (1)
  • Scheduled Tribe(2) - 8.2%
  • Christianity(1) - 2.3%
  • Sikhism(1) - 1.7%
  • Other Religions(1) - 0.9%
  • Buddhism(1) - 0.7%
  • Jainism(1) - 0.4%
The so-called Upper Caste Hindu population % is as below.
  • Non-Brahmin Upper Caste Hindus - 18.4% (Balancing Figure)
  • Brahmin - 5% (3)
Castes as a Percentage of Hindu Population
As a percentage of Hindu population, Brahmins are a minority, making up only 6.3% of India's Hindu population.

Brahmin population in India as percentage of Hindu - Census 2011 Joshua Project

As is evident from the table above, OBC, SC and SC make up more than 70% of Hindu population of India.

Re-calibration of Population to Account for Under-reporting
Legally a Muslim man can  have more than one wife as per Sharia Law. This is especailly common in those areas where literacy levels are on the lower side, and it is not uncommon to find Muslim men with 2 wives and a brood of children.

However during Census estimation, many Muslim men report only their first wife and family. This grossly under-estimates the Muslim population of India.

Hence I have done a recalibration exercise where I have tried to estimate true Muslim population of India.

Inputs Used in the Re-calibration.
  • Muslim Fertility Rate(5) - 3.1
  • Literacy Rate by State(6)
Based on literacy rate of a state I have tried to estimate, the number of wives and hence family size of Muslims.

Muslim Population in India - Recalibrated by State by Literacy Rate
  • In the case of Kerala, which has the highest literacy rate in India, census figures of Muslim population of 88 lakhs is close to my re-calibrated figure of 1 crore.
  • On the other hand, Uttar Pradesh which has a literacy rate of 69.7%, census population of Muslim is 3.8 crores whereas my re-calibrated Muslim population for Uttar Pradesh is 6.4 crore.
  • Re-calibrated India Muslim population is 27.3 crores, as compared to 17.2 crores in Indian Census.
  • Re-calibrated Indian population is 131 crore, as compared to 121 crore in Indian Census.
Conclusions
Brahmins are a minority group in India. Their ancient culture is threatened because of discrimination by consecutive Governments in forms of caste and minority based reservations.

As per Census data Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, Other Backward Classes and Muslims make up 71% of India's population. Yet they are the recipient of numerous benefits in terms of education and jobs at the cost of Brahmins who make up less than 5%.

If we use my re-calibrated data above, Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, Other Backward Classes and Muslims make up 73% of India's population, whereas Brahmins are at 4.6% only.

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132 comments:

  1. Those who ignore Brahmins being a non Brahmin Hindu will be engulfed one day by alien communities. Every Hindu must understand that even in alien communities there is a difference in status. My sympathies to all who got converted to get recognition you will be discriminated in alien community's. Hinduism respects other human as god. In middle east same community kills each other. Other western religion uses network marketing techniques.

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    1. It is Brahmin who divided Hinduism into sections and subsections (brahmin,vashya,kshatriya,shudra) and limited education and other upper class facilities into themselves resulting in debacle and near extinct state of Hinduism.Ironically now the Brahmin is posting of threat to there stature.Wake up fellas and see and recapitulate what bad and ultimate disaster the Brahmins have done to hinduism.

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    2. This is the most stupid comment ever. Do u know who is responsible for such a bad shape of India? You, self declared Brahmins. Ur community want that whole world must respect u. And for what? Just because you are born in Brahmin family. RACISTS

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    3. If you call yourself a 'Brahmin', u must first give the definition of a 'Brahmin'. Can u?

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    4. Hi Subhodeep, I am a Brahmin. My Email vishalrvyas@gmail.com. Can we share thoughts and other issues pertaining to Overall Brahmin community. It would be great if we bind the Brahmin community. I have seen Brahmin community has lost respect and we are hated in many sense. We can discuss about it with examples

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    5. I am bramhin and student of engineering and very disturb because of reservation system as others have to pay only 900rs per year n for me it's 1lakh..

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    6. I am bramhin and student of engineering and very disturb because of reservation system as others have to pay only 900rs per year n for me it's 1lakh..

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    7. I am also a brahmin iyer i am staying in kerala here also my college fee is 64000for me and for other caste like obc sc st its free and also they get a laptop

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    8. Proud to be Brahmin. Jai parshuram

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  2. Author kindly contact me on trivedi.manu@gmail.com or 9820346062

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  3. Kindly reach me oqn trivedi.manu@gmail.com or 9820346062

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  4. I sincerely appreciate the effort involved. It is very informative. The Brahmins however need to move beyond scholarship and begin to reclaim what is truely their inheritence. Do get in touch. Thanks

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    1. Thank you for the appreciation. Shall get in touch with you.

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    2. Giridharacharya samudralaJanuary 22, 2017 at 4:00 AM

      Namashkar Subhodeepji...
      Your analysis is really great..
      The government of India has to declare one thing whether it is trying to push the BC,SC,ST & minorities towards development or pulling the brahmins away from it.

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    3. Bastard brahmins, you were occupying every part of society and every job propects and education systems during British rule and still claiming more ... you are nomads ... We tamils build all the temples and you are doing pooja ... bullshit

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    4. See brahmins are responsible for education as per manusmuruti script and everyone knows as indians where we stand in our world ranking in education. Brahmin's todays condition is because of themselves only. They miserably failed in their duty ie is educating the citizens. Thats why they r suffering now

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  5. Why the Brahmins should not get the minority tag ?

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    1. Very good question. I have no answer to that.

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    2. Because if I call myself a Brahmin then I am SUPERIOR to others and I don't need someone's support to rise to the apex.

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    3. Puneet I agree. As Brahmins we are superior and we need not lead our lives on other's charities. However there are many Brahmin boys, especially in rural areas, whose fathers or families have no other income than from the religious rituals they perform. These children, though intellectually superior and capable cannot pursue higher education due to the quota system and both the country and the community looses.

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    4. Aparna, you are right and something needs to be done for these cause. It was a time when Brahmins were highly educated and today I have seen many cases where Brahmin boys / girls tend to leave studies just because they don't have proper financial support for higher education

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  6. The job started by Christiam missionaries and Muslims to eliminate Brahmin community in India is continued my modern thinkers politicians. Please note the method adopted to convert brahmins in south Gujatat ( Bohra muslims) and Goa ( saraswat Brahmins). The present politicians are continuing that more sophisticated way.

    Brahmins are intellectual class who learnt english language and analysed the situation prevailing in those pre indendence days. They are marginalised now. But the blame game still goes on. Most of the rulers till now do not belong to Brahmin community. But when it comes to inefficiency they add upper caste and brahmins are as the main reason.

    If you look at the history, all strong rulers tried to annihilated intellectuals. Unfortunately in India they were Brahmins. British started it just before leaving India warning others that Brahmins hold 80% jobs, they will be your next rulers. This is continued till today. Create fear psychoses and rule the nation. After independence, not many brahmins hold ministerial position. But still fear is being created.

    Now we have come to a situation where we have to be careful of other Bramins who for their bread and butter, say some thing unpleasant to all. When al Barauni asked why only Brahmin should teach? The reply was that Brahmins do not depend on any one. They do not hold any position. Therefore, they will be truthful in their teaching. It is this sincerity that helped British to employ more number of brahmins in Key positions. But the present rulers want to complete job of eliminating brahmins from the key positions. It is shear grit that keep brahmins stronger.

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    1. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Appreciate the detailed comment and assessment.

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    2. Go to hell.You are modern stupid ignorant and inhuman Brahmin. Your Days are Gone

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  7. Brahmins, crying as victim of discrimination...laughable!! Brahmins have been the masters of discrimination for centuries. The minority brahmins discriminated and segregated the other communities for generations after generations after generations. Why are brahmins even poor? Brahmins enjoyed all the privileges and the opportunities for ages. I know why my mother's brahmin neighbors became poor.They became poor because they were not suppose to work in fields, not suppose to plough lands...who made those rules?? Not us for sure. Your own crooked ideas backfired you . You brahmins are hypocrites! General category represents 95% of the non-government organizations and anywhere between 60-75% of the government organizations. So stop crying discrimination!!

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  8. Brahmins, crying as victim of discrimination...laughable!! Brahmins have been the masters of discrimination for centuries. The minority brahmins discriminated and segregated the other communities for generations after generations after generations. Why are brahmins even poor? Brahmins enjoyed all the privileges and the opportunities for ages. I know why my mother's brahmin neighbors became poor.They became poor because they were not suppose to work in fields, not suppose to plough lands...who made those rules?? Not us for sure. Your own crooked ideas backfired you . You brahmins are hypocrites! General category represents 95% of the non-government organizations and anywhere between 60-75% of the government organizations. So stop crying discrimination!!

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    1. brahmin population is getting discriminated and ill treated for mistakes of ancestors , we are not the one to be blamed

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  9. Brahmins, crying as victim of discrimination...laughable!! Brahmins have been the masters of discrimination for centuries. The minority brahmins discriminated and segregated the other communities for generations after generations after generations. Why are brahmins even poor? Brahmins enjoyed all the privileges and the opportunities for ages. I know why my mother's brahmin neighbors became poor.They became poor because they were not suppose to work in fields, not suppose to plough lands...who made those rules?? Not us for sure. Your own crooked ideas backfired you . You brahmins are hypocrites! General category represents 95% of the non-government organizations and anywhere between 60-75% of the government organizations. So stop crying discrimination!!

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  10. I appreciate the work done by you sir in this research , give me your email or contact

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    1. Thank you for the appreciation. Please see this link for my contact details
      http://www.brahminpedia.com/p/if-you-have-any-suggestions-or-comments.html

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    2. I am a Tamil Iyengar Brahmin who came from the descendants of Vedic fathers and forefathers. Once upon a time brahmin population was large in india. Now its very less. Why cant a rich brahmins raise four to five children to save our community from extinct? This is the only solution to save us from extinction.

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    3. Hey brahmin alien, run away from our society ... you term yourself intellectuals ... then who are those so called old tamil scholars ... idiots ... u claimed supremacy yourself and wanted to make all others identity-less ... you are assholes, that's the reason nature is killing your population .... die hard ...

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  11. It is best for Brahmins to convert ASAP.there is no point in being a Brahmin.

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    1. No, I disagree.

      We as Brahmins should start doing our duties and converting others to Sanatana Dharma. We should spread knowledge and good behavior and lead India spiritually once again. It is the duty of a Brahmin.

      We should discourage meat-eating (esp beef), drinking alcohol and generally spread values and culture.

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    2. You are a dalit. You probably adore cheese burgers.

      Every dalit is obsessed in cheese burgers. They cannot stop eating processed cheese, flour, and meat. They even put sugar sauce like ketchup, sweet mustard, and sweet relish on the cheese burger. A brahmin would rather die than eat a cheese burger. Agni says behead those who put cheese on meat.

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    3. Kogen, if u r so interested in beheading and ur scriptures allow to behead, u can join Islamic State. They r fond of beheading. Tamasic mentality

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  12. The bogus article i ever came across you invented hinduism...you run the show (hinduism) you only owned the temples and more than 70% strategic administrative posts are in your hand and now you want minority tag...do you even understand what is minority? Minority are those whose religion or culture is different than majority and so they might be vulnerable on the ground such...but you peoples are traders of culture ...you spread your culture based on inequality to majority of indian polpulation...caste structure is the greatest master plan of your to make mankind subversive and slave...you control the whole hinduism like a business and now you feels threatened ....haha...

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  13. Appreciate the work, very well done, we all should unite togather and fight for our rights and against discrimination,as we are less in population,not depended on any favors,we dont claim for any reservations and also we cannot be tricked easily for any kind of
    appesments, we have been continously ignored.we have to over come the situation by strengthening our network and also by
    encouraing, educating and motivate our youngsters and kids to follow our great
    values. Please be in touch and let me know if I can of any help.

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  14. Srinivasan AngirasMay 18, 2016 at 4:16 PM

    Why not give sacred thread to other communities and convert them to Brahmins. Let the new comers be included as a new sub division among one of the many sub divisions within Brahmins. This has happened a lot during ancient times. e.g.Vishwamitra, Sri Ramanuja's conversion
    Unless we do this there is no chance to get our rights from vote bank hungry politicians.

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    1. Ok. Then please start working on it.

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    2. My acharya (Sri Ramanujacharya) converted a lot of paraiyar (dalit) to brahmin. Most of my family including myself are very dark and look almost the same as dalit. So yes we can convert the dalits

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    3. Firstly Dalit is a political term implying an exploited lower caste person - most of them are not - it was a British myth and a political tool. Let us refer to them as Shudra jati if you want - and please note that there are more Shudra millionaires than Brahmins or Kshatriyas.

      I appreciate your point but let me clarify there is no need to convert. Live and let live. If somebody feels, that he or she has the characteristic of one, they are welcome - similarly those who are born into a Brahmin caste but feel themselves more Kshatriya or Shudra should be allowed to leave.

      Also, how does a "Dalit" look exactly? There is no scientific evidence based on caste or religion. ALL Indians share the same DNA.
      1. Skin color has nothing to do with caste - it depends on geography and altitude. A non-Brahmin from Himachal is generally fairer than even a Brahmin from TN. A Dalit from Punjab looks more west-Asian while a Brahmin from Assam looks more north-eastern. That is nature.
      2. In all societies world-wide, a scholar looks different from a labourer - it has nothing to do with caste.
      3. Brahmin is about being a good person who protects Dharma and spreads reasonableness, and any one is welcome to behave one if he or she has high satya guna. Similarly we should beware of fake beef-eating or alcohol drinking or power-hungry or money driven caste Brahmins - and should ask them to move to lower varnas.

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    4. Who told you that?Caste was introduced based on skin colour.Natives of Modern india who are today called dalits and adivasis from different tribes and castes are native.They were dark skinned aborginies.The persian immigration happened and only brahmins and RSS media blames everything on mughal and british while whole world agrees with it.Brahmins rule this country.Today race has been mixed,caste has been based on surname and certificate,but it was not like that before.Brahmins were foreigners from persia and they outcasted natives to prevent racial mixing.THe DNA haplogroups don't like.Go ask the kurds,afhghans,british,germans,asutrians,americans,and many other scholars from other countries.Why would i believe those people who worship monkey,rat,cow,penis,elephants,says Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu.THe caste based marriage is a good example why racial/castiest segregation was needed.YOu can fool few people but not all.Read Rig veda,its mentioned clearly how Indra kept the dark skinned people away with his bolt,Also ancient hindus used to eat beef and sacrfise beef in rituals.

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    5. Colour is not an issue ...it's foolish to think whites are Brahmins and dark skinned are converted... frankly speaking we can not convert caste it will be possible only with inter caste marriages..... ..

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    6. I appreciate your efforts of upliftment lower castes. But one cannot end caste system cause religion has nothing to do with caste system. The only way to end caste system is to convert it to a "Samaj system"

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  15. Do we have any Political party to support Brahmins ?

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    1. We can make one :)

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    2. Mujhe lgta h desh m agr un jati smhuho jaise Brahmins, muslims.,and other upper cast non bramhins ka Ek gthjod bnyaa jaye to hm bhut kuch kr sakte h ya to is jatiya reservation ko arthik adhar pre kiya jaye ya to to un logo ko reservation k dayre s bahr rkhna chahiye jinkie familly my kisi n Ek baar reservation ka labh uthaya h

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  16. There is a great discrimination against Brahmins. Many Brahmins are very poor and have no facilities from Indian Government.This is a matter of Shame. Many economically backward Brahmins do not even get reservation in jobs,education and commercial activies from Indian Government.There are just 7% Brahmins in Hindu population.This makes them a minority in India. BRAHMINS DESERVE RESERVATION.INJUSTICE IS BEING DONE AGAINST THEM. INDIAN GOVT. MUST OPEN ITS EYES AND SEE THE REALITY. RESERVATION MUST BE DONE ON ECONOMIC BASIS AND NOT ON CASTE BASIS.THERE IS INDISCRIMINATION BEING DONE AGAINST BRAHMINS.

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  17. we Brahmins must organize ourselves into a very tight knit cohesive unit nationally, state wise and also globally. Then we should focus on economic upliftment through education, knowledge skills. As we are all in dominant positions in government and private sector, we can network and help our poor under privileged brothers and sisters. We could begin by forming a trust and encouraging Brahmins to donate a certain amount of money. This could used be for scholarships for education, performing upanayams, marriages etc. In this regard, Tambrams- Tamil Brahmins have already taken lead. More on this later. Narayan Prasad

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    1. You are already organised from 3500 years. How long you want to keep India as your slave .You are the biggest Mafia Cosa nostra and triads of Indian society. How long you will exploit the masses? .Try to become Shri N R Narayan Murthy, Nilekani, Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru, Govind vallabh Pant and many more.

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    2. oh my fucking asshole bastard .. eradicate tambrams from tamilnadu ... tamilnadu is for tamil people and not for alien brahmins

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  18. For the good of India and its people please close this web.

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  19. what a doped up article ,i cannot help but laugh.Dude what do you do?

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  20. I don't understand what author wants to prove here. Brahmin community ruled this country by using caste system which is really inhumane for such long time. Don't you feel to give justice to other human being ?

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    1. Of course you won't understand. You probably did your school and college education in Quota with pass marks of 15 out of 100. You are ignorant, and even discriminatory reservation system of last 60 years has not helped you.

      1. Brahmins did not rule this country - the rulers were Kshatriyas and that was 1000 years back. Since then cruel and greedy Muslims and British have ruled.
      2. There is no caste system, caste system was created by British Lord Risley in 1860 - Hindus had flexible jati-varna. Valmiki the author of Ramayana was a Shudra. There is however reservation system were Dalits and Schedule Castes are oppressing Upper castes today.
      3. Dalits were essentially a rich community while Brahmins were always poor. Under Muslims and esp under British, Dalits became poor like everyone else.
      4. Hypothetically, if 4% Brahmin population dominated 50% of Dalits, then you deserve it. But that did not happen.
      5. Get some real education. Stop using quota. State your name and surname. And then talk to me.

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    2. chandan kumar mishraAugust 12, 2016 at 11:02 AM

      thanks Subhodeep Mukhopadhyay for your thinking

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    3. I feel very sorry for Author of this article because your brahmin community is bloody idiot that is why you are minority. yes you are under threat because of your own KARMA. God will make you brahmins suffer for your previous deeds.

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    4. you bloody coward. if you have your brahmin guts let the comments publish without proval. but I think it takes too much of your brahmin courage to listen to others voice.
      also please meet any psycatrist. it would help you.

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    5. I am sorry but I think this information is inaccurate. Caste system was not created by British. It was created by the Gupta Empire about 1400 years ago to gain control over the masses and yes, British thoroughly utilized that system for the exact same reason the Gupta empire did - Divide and Conquer. If we stop pointing figures at outsiders and acknowledge our ancestral mistakes and try to rise above it, then only we can hope for a better future for the next generation.
      I feel this article is doing exactly the thing we should avoid and got us enslaved to outsiders like British. Rather than fighting with each other as tribals why not fight against the system to officially get rid of this archaic enslaving caste system and have assistance based on economic and financial status of the households irrespective of which caste they belong to. Wouldn't this be more humane? Wouldn't that we more fair?

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    6. love your answer.

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    7. Thanks for your painstaking research on Brahmins. Brahmins are today faced with many problems but yet you would be happy that due to the brilliance they possess due to divines grace, they are adiatinguished class by itself. Pl see following Datas:
      1.There are atotal of 08 crores 55Laks + Brahmins in India as on 2015 June compiled by Brahmin International.
      2. Maximum Brahmins live in UtterPradesg 02 Crore
      3.Minimum Brahmins are in Sikkim 01 Lakh
      4. V.Cs in Universities 51%
      5.IAS Brahmins 72%
      6.IPS Brahmins 61%
      7 CBI and other Allied services Brahmins 72%
      Feel proud of Brahmins And let not be feared of any anti Brahmin organisations or actvities. Lets generate onness among all Brahmins.
      Jaiparasuramji!!!! There is something in Brahmins that despite many oppositions it glitters with shine and magnanimity!!!

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    8. Who can validate above data. I think above data is not true. This much IAS, IPS brahmins are not present in inida. Wrong data being published to keep brahmins in brahm. Just check and make survey how many brahmins you know really who are sitting on such higher posts and also reservation is there for IAS, IPS posta too

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    9. Indeed, a tiny fraction in every community are corrupt. But when a community itself is a fraction of the entire population, then that's pretty unfair. Just coz Brahmans had values that others misused doesn't make them weak. In fact, you may never know what the future holds. Moreover, Brahmans live a spiritual life coz they've evolved so much that they know there is no purpose in living a selfish material & mortal life while all other communities are born to experience pleasure and reproduce the same like animals.

      One day, if god descends into this reality to pick the best of people, Jains would go first followed by brahmins, Zoroastrians / Parsees. The rest need to wait just few 1000s of years to evolve spiritually and live a purposeful life to be plucked for paradise.

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  21. It is really hurting most of our hasite settled Abroad especially USA today it may be good financially but next 2 generations in these NRI brahmins may lost their identity probably they may convert to other relegions slowly our community has lost everything now we are becoming as nomads In tamil Nadu we have special department known as Hindu plimigrage Department where Hindu temples will be monitored and thier funds are added to Government but other relegion funds selfed by them mainly used for converations but nobody questions this and all our Hindu temples where under great threat of destroying stage, as a brahmin I personally feel bad thanks to author for bringing some lights on fact

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    1. I am a Brahmin from the US. I was born and raised in America and I know Tamil (native), English, Hindi and some Sanskrit. I am literate in all. I plan on only marrying a fellow Tamil Iyengar Brahmin. I want to raise pure Brahmin kids. I wish more Brahmins hold same view.

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    2. The solution to all brahmin problems is that they unite and demand for separate pradesh other than all other communities. BRAHMDESH

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  22. Should we have country of our own
    Being humiliated all the time
    Hated to the core

    What's the choice?

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    1. Awww, you are so cute and stupid.
      just wait and watch how atheists will end your caste and your religion and brahmins and hinduism

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  23. My simple analysis is
    If Chhatrapati shivaji was born today
    He would get reservation

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  24. Congress ki barbaadi tak jung rahegi!!,Muslims(pakistanis),christians(britishers) aur Dalits(lanka,china anywhere else) Ko desh se ukhaad kar phekh ne tak jung rahegi !!! In contrary to what kanhaiya of jnu said!!

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  25. Dear all my friends,

    Reservation is the most sought topic in India for discussion. For me, it is as useless as Kashmir issue. The main quality for any analysis is that it should be Unbiased. The moment people will start the discussion for reservation, the baisness comes automatically because of their own categories. And,Inculcation of unbiased attitude in disicion making is very very difficult for an average litrate person in the whole world. However, it becomes very very easy if the one have, very pure and good heart in his body. Try to guess friends, what I am trying to say in brief.

    Regards to all my friends,

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  26. We are Minority bt proud we dont claim any reservation since we got capapbilities

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    1. The capability is only to make others fool

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    2. The capability is only to make others fool

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    3. Not all are having capabilities, finance matters and affects in very dramatic manner

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  27. Sudeep ji, a very good analysis indeed. Please confirm if these data include any numbers of the refugees / illegal immigrants who have entered India in Lakhs from Bangladesh over the last three decades into Assam and WB. And this continues to happen in to this day.

    Further did you happen to read books of Sri Rajiv Malhotra like Breaking India, Being Different and Indra's Net etc the latest being Battle of Sanskrit and Hinduphobia. Many answers for the questions raised or not raised can be found in these books. Please give your views..

    Shiva

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  28. Already 80 % of conversions to Muslims and 20 % to Christians , engulfing India.Dalits are the victims. Once it got completely converted, then only the survival of the fittest will start to play. Country one day will be Muslim dominated and thence Pak will automatically get allighed

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  29. This a a joke, a brahmin asking, rather begging for reservation.

    They great reformation of 20th century happens when Dr B R Ambedkar got us the ultimate freedom from the same upper cast ppl. Who kept us in darkness for ages by taking 100% reservations of education, jobs, social status, lands ect.

    Its been just 65 to 70, now they can't see we thrive in every field giving compitation and being successful.

    The caste system which was created by bhramins is the most unholy and unjusice propaganda in the history of mankind.

    Its time to tell the world that the concept of GOD and all Vedas and whatever shit you call it as holy scripts is nothing but a lie and face the world with equality. Sure there will be no reservation in future if the upliftment of our caste ppl grow and prosper.

    Brahminpedia is a joke.
    Is there is a afterlife which you guys claims to be, am sure all you bhramins will be born cockroachs for all the sins you have created.

    Jai Bheem

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  30. Let's ask ourselves the question who is a Brahmin and where did they come from? They are no different than any of the other Indian populations. Those people who decided to pursue the path of liberation and moksha from this worldliness are Brahmins. Similar definitions can easily be found for Kyatriyas and others. It is literally the same as what you would call doctors and engineers in todays world. Definitions for a particular professional group.

    This definitions were converted into caste and exploited first by the Gupta empire about 1400 years ago. This was further exploited during British rule to divide and conquer.

    I think the analysis is quite shallow and shortsighted to just gives another angle and fuel to primitive tribalism. If we really want progress in Indian society we should be asking for an official abolishment of this enslaving system and ask for support based on economical and financial status instead (those who really are in need for assistance irrespective of which caste or class they belong to). We are humans first and then Brahmins or whatever. So lets try to become humans first. Lets try to see ourselves in others and rather than pulling others down lets try to see if we can all rise up.
    Disclosure - I am a Hindu and a Brahmin and could not care less if the caste system disappeared. I am trying to be a human first and that is far more rewarding!

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  31. My sense is to get equal oppurtunity henceforth family income based reservation on should placed for all indian system....it is only way foward to include all them and brings balance .......

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  32. I like this article, but I want to say one thing only if all human are same and equal than why this caste system exist, nd if u want reservation based on minority than plz do something to remove caste system

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  33. Sir, An excellent article, highly informative and well written. I'm a south Indian Brahmin (Iyer), highly oppressed by caste based reservation system. Pls tell me about how we can stop this. How can we project our real miserable situation to the Govt. Do you think this situation will change anytime soon? Pls reply in my e-mail: rajuiyer79@gmail.com. thanks

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  34. I appreciate this article...
    I think it is not matter of caste system but it is about skill, efficiency and intellectuality....
    Since the time of evolution we all at same starting line but our ancestors proved more skillful and adaptable chance we moved ahead....
    Fittest have right to survive...
    But now it time to unite and fight...
    Otherwise India is going to became next Zimbabwe....

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  35. I appreciate this article...
    I think it is not matter of caste system but it is about skill, efficiency and intellectuality....
    Since the time of evolution we all at same starting line but our ancestors proved more skillful and adaptable chance we moved ahead....
    Fittest have right to survive...
    But now it time to unite and fight...
    Otherwise India is going to became next Zimbabwe....

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  36. I appreciate this article...
    I think it is not matter of caste system but it is about skill, efficiency and intellectuality....
    Since the time of evolution we all at same starting line but our ancestors proved more skillful and adaptable chance we moved ahead....
    Fittest have right to survive...
    But now it time to unite and fight...
    Otherwise India is going to became next Zimbabwe....

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  37. I appreciate this article...
    I think it is not matter of caste system but it is about skill, efficiency and intellectuality....
    Since the time of evolution we all at same starting line but our ancestors proved more skillful and adaptable chance we moved ahead....
    Fittest have right to survive...
    But now it time to unite and fight...
    Otherwise India is going to became next Zimbabwe....

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  38. Thanks for the information regarding caste wise population. Was curious to know.

    But I am going to give a different view point.
    The article here first of all fails to consider the reason behind the reservations. All caste and Jatis of Hindusim are one, they are not separate. A brahmin is also a Hindu.

    Then why do we have reservations?
    Because divisions n atrocities inflicted by the upper caste on lower ones for many centuries and continue to do so. For easy proof check matrimonial sites.

    The reservation for lower caste is not due to minority status but due to inhuman discrimination.

    The minority status comes for people of other faiths not brahmins who are Hindus,the majority.

    It's because of this sickening practice of casteism that make India weak. You guys crib about it but yet follow it. IRONY :).

    Stop casteism and raise your voice against it. As situation will improve there will be no need for reservations.

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  39. You got a point but the error is in how you are seeing it.

    a) Reservations for dalits is for the discrimination they face not based on population.

    b) Muslims get or ask for reservations due to politics and being minority. Brahmins can't be considered a minority as its a subdivision of Hindusim society not another faith.

    Your statements
    1. Brahmins did not rule this country - the rulers were Kshatriyas and that was 1000 years back. Since then cruel and greedy Muslims and British have ruled.

    Yes you are right but brahmins were advisors and high priest. Part of upper cast with power n education.

    2. There is no caste system, caste system was created by British Lord Risley in 1860 - Hindus had flexible jati-varna. Valmiki the author of Ramayana was a Shudra. There is however reservation system were Dalits and Schedule Castes are oppressing Upper castes today.

    a)After 1857 the British wanted to understand more about the people they ruled so as to avoid any future uprising. That's what Risley did. Caste is a system, that British equated to Indian society based on the division or structure they saw was already prevalent.

    b) Varna was flexible(only choice of occupation wise) but jati a later creation was never meant to be flexible. But I agree the current form of rigid casteism is a result of the above census.

    c) To say through reservation lower caste are oppressing upper caste I can only attribute to ignorance of the urban. Open a matrimonial page and division is evident. Many duplicate certificates are made, the schemes don't reach dalits, inhuman casteism still exist in rural areas as well as in varying form among the educated etc.
    If you really want to target, then target casteism by first not performing them yourself, rising against others who do and for true justice, the management quota.


    3. Dalits were essentially a rich community while Brahmins were always poor. Under Muslims and esp under British, Dalits became poor like everyone else.

    Again baseless, biased allegation. Buddha's life accounts can easily negate this.

    4. Hypothetically, if 4% Brahmin population dominated 50% of Dalits, then you deserve it. But that did not happen.

    It was a combination of upper caste and not just brahmins. With the help of a Raja anything is easy. Plus what is more powerful than God. Using God's fear it's quite easy to control.

    5. Get some real education. Stop using quota. State your name and surname. And then talk to me.

    So does name and caste change the value of anyone's point irrespective of its worthiness. Isn't this casteist view by an educated person like you.

    If you really want to target, target casteism. Without it they would be no need for reservations. Target the politicians who asking for reservation for community that do not deserve it. Target the management quota that maximum of politicians colleges take.
    But its hard to target them so you target....

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  40. wondering why a straight forward on point comment of mine hasn't been approved :)

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  41. I would request Brahmins to observe as follows
    1.Marry within your community.
    2.Encourage and donate for Vedic and ritual studies at patshalas and mutts.
    3.Observe traditions at home particularly Sandhyavandanam at least once a day.
    4.Shun non vegetarian and alcohol

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  42. ha...ha...why wrong information spreading in India. plz not do that ...

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  43. I appreciate the wonderful service you are doing

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  44. excellent work done for us. i hope we should also gathered infomation related Brahmins presences all around the world.

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  45. All glories to Lord Krishna and Vaishnavas.

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  46. Go and find who holds all high level govt posts, which group dominates temples, also try to find out your groups social status and then later whine that your group doesn't get any special considerations. You brahmins have in an institutional mechanism slaughtered all other competition 3000 yrs ago and are still enjoying that glory and top it all crying that you are a minority group. That's a shame.

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  47. This is superb work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hats off to you. But you did not mention Kerala Brahmins who are generally referred to as Namboodiris/Namboothiris. They are ridiculed and made fun of by the lower castes yet they are carrying on somehow. In fact the Dalits and lower castes now want to do puja, rituals etc in temples. They have successfully overtaken us in many palces in this sphere!!!!!That has been the traditional work of Namboodiris! But these stupids want to take away that too from us saying that why should only a Namboodiri enter the santom sanctorum. They have reseravation everywhere, they have taken away our lands (due to Marxism, communism) etc and now they want to take away our traditional occupation. They want to snatch everything away from us. I am ashamed to state that Marxism was introduced in Kerala by one amongst the Kerala Brahmins, i.e EMS Namboodiripad. That is the biggest block. People from our own community take cudgels against us. It is ironical. Has any one "mai-ka-lal" come forward from SC/ST/OBC brigade to state that Brahmins have been sinned against? NO. but some guys from amongst us will go and defend these "good for nothing" lower castes!!!!!! THIS HAS TO STOP. There needs a storm of awakening.

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  48. Hi,
    Lets get together. My name is Sunil Parashar and I am a computer professional.
    I am thinking to create a online platform for Brahmins only. To bring at least some of the pandits together. Remember guys we are still THE BEST and still have the courage to change the world and all political scenarios, only need is to get together. So just get together.

    Other than this I am planning to start a Software company again for Brahmins only and my plan is to startup a university later on again not so say for Brahmins only. Lets get together that's what we only need.

    Thanks. Thanks once again for such a wonderful article.

    Sunil Sharma/Parashar.
    You can reach me at it.sunil77@gmail.com

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  49. In south of Medinipur district of West Bengal (and northern Orissa also) are a small group of people who call themselves "Dhakshintya Vedic Brahmins" .They mostly belong to Yajur veda Kashyap gotra . Since I belong to that community , I wanted to study about them but found very little resources . However , one source mentions that they came to Bengal as soldiers from Karnataka when the Hoysala king attacked Bengal about 7th century AD (I don't remember much of what I read decades back).
    I had seen a reference ( I did not get the original book )from 'History of Bengal' by Rakhaldas Bandopadhya (of Mohenjodaro fame) where he mentions : After the fall of Raja Jaichand of Kannauj , a group of Brahmins , not willing to stay under muslim rule , migrated to Warangal (Telengana) and served as soldiers to the Kakiteya kings till their defeat by Malik Kafur ( general of Allauddin Khilji). Again , not willing to stay under muslim rule , they migrated to Orissa . The king despatched them to his northern border where he was in conflict with the Bengal Sultanate . Subsequently , the Mughals , Maratha and British ruled over those areas and many of them served as Zamindars .
    Unlike in rest of Bengal , I had seen that in addition to keeping books , musical instruments , pen , slate and the like before Saraswati Devi during Puja (Basant Panchami) , my relatives in addition keep their guns and sword in front of the Devi and ask for her blessings . It surprised me and on enquiry came to know that they ask blessings for 'Sastra Vidya' . Incidentally , as per scriptures , one of the jobs of Yajur vedic brahmins is 'sastra siksha to kshatriyas '(eg Dronacarya , Kripacharya of Mahabharat) . Possibly this is the reason why they picked up arms so easily in medieval period .
    I shall be thankful if anybody can give details about these Brahmins who did the job of Kshatriyas.

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  50. Interesting and important discussion. I'm sorry, I'm not an Indian, let alone a Brahmin, but I have deep love for the Vedic culture of India, having studied and taught Sanskrit and done research in the Vedic Literature. The solution can only come from the very depth of the Vedic teachings:
    1. All humans, in their innermost core, are Pramatma, and: "Ayam Atma Brahma". All equally deserve to reach Moksha in Brahmi Chetana. That is the basis of the beautiful sentiment of "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam", which embraces all Varna, Jati, creeds, social classes, ethnic communities.
    2. The important Dharmic role of Brahmins for society and for the good of the world is to maintain and propagate the Vedic tradition of Adhyayana, Adhyaapana, Yajana, Yaajana, to enliven the Nitya and Apaurusheya Veda in the consciousness of the world and create balance in Nature through the proper Smarta and Shrauta Karma etc. This is the most exalted role a human being can have. So having attained birth as a Brahmin, all attention should be given to fulfill this Vaidika Brahmana role and not waste this golden opportunity on Laukika goals.
    Respected Brahmins, please hold your role in highest respect and bless the world with the precious gifts you have been given. The more you bless the more all of society will benefit and the more you will be blessed and respected in return. This precious tradition has to continue - for the welfare of all of us!
    Namaskar!

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  51. Hindu unity is more imp than brahmin unity.in west Bengal a brahmin cm is devasting the Hindus and making west Bengal next bangladesh

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  52. WE BRAHMINS WERE NOT ABLE TO LIVE PEACEFULLY ONLY IN TAMILNADU THEY WERE ONLY AGAINST US Y FOR POLITICAL VICTORY..........

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  53. TIme to unite brahmins all over india

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  54. brahmins only get all jobs

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  55. brahmins divide savarnas and Aryan Dravidian to divide India.only brahmins are Aryans other north Indians are draviduans

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  56. Brahmins first need to clarify that they were not responsible for "Upper and Lower Caste Prejudices" that were prevalent in India. Brahmins were used as "Scapegoats" by powerful kings to push their agenda of separating Indians into smaller groups by calling one as "Upper" and others as "Lower". Basically they adopted "Divide and Rule Policy". Because they put Brahmins at the top of their system, all others started believing that Brahmins did this.

    Brahmins lost their position in India, because of the democratic system. In a democracy, majority rules, NOT the smart people. In those days, Brahmins had value because their smartness was considered valuable, but now the other castes form larger groups and usurp power and wealth and have left Brahmins behind as a weaker class. They still would like to use Brahmins as their advisors and helpers, but Brahmins don't get beyond that.

    Brahmins should unite and use their intellect to create things that can overpower other castes. If the Brahmin intellect is only as good as other's intellect, Brahmins have no choice but to get weaker and marginalized. Atleast if Brahmins unite, they can support one of the other groups in exchange for "Reservation or Positions"

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  57. As a brahmin by birth , married to a brahmin, having a son , we are trying to follow Satya which is the basic essence of our Hindu Darma to the core , till date...We are facing stiff rejection from our own blood relatives,friends who are brahmins, as we try to live with policies of our Darma...we don't know where it is leading to. But time &again the SATYA which we follow till date has been the only support ,saviour & help ,strength which is keeping us alive...

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  58. The real answer to all suffering is that all the brahmins unite and leave the country

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  59. The real answer to all the suffering is that all brahmin should leave the country

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  60. All the temples arts and crafts you display to glorify Hinduism and Brahmanism were actually created by the lower caste varna people. A Brahmin hardly did any physical work, just lived of praising the rich rulers and exploiting and insulting the people who actually work, cultivate crops and vegetables, build houses for you.

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  61. As a Brahmin, I also support opinion shared here that unity is required among Brahmins. More than politics, I think understanding and as much as possible preserving the culture be our aim. Popularising Sanskrit language can be one important thing that we all can try and support each other.

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  62. It is a good initiative for Brahmins having a wikipadeia like this. We must protect ourselves from the so called secular and anti-national forces that is eager to ruin the base of India and Sanatan Dharma. From the beginning only and only Brahmins have been the central force which has bound the culture and fundamentals of Hinduism with their knowledge(Brhamateja), power(Kshatravirya), tapas(austerity) and sacrifice. That is why we always have been targeted by those who want to hit our culture and religion at its base. Time to regroup and establish ourselves again as the torchbearer and guide of the follower of Sanatan Dharma, to destroy all kusanskaras, re-establish the path of spirituality and Vedas. Please contact at padmajakantamishra@gmail.com for any help regarding this. Dhanyavad

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  63. create a whatsapp group asap.
    let's get added there and discuss in stretch.
    Something needs to be done not just to retain the glory of brahmins but to fullfil our duty as brahmins. And this will be done when we make strategies and work towards achievement of the aim.
    Let's join habds in this fight and put our thoughts into action rather than just showing concerns through comments.

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  64. If we want to get our rights, we have to raise voice strongly, for that we have to be united. If we keep quite nobody will care us.

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  65. HAHA lol what is all this you people are discriminated? How? Are your sons killed for riding horses and drving bikes in villages? are brahmins cleaning sewage (though u shd be)! Bunch of disgusting smelly bastards

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  66. Hello, I am posting an extract ( you can read the whole of it and see the video also in the website given below) which i found very heart rending and moving. Being a brahmin myself, i knew that the plight of my fellow brethren is terrible. But on reading this i was in tears. Damn it! Can't we do anything. Is there a way out. Please let us get united. This has been taken from courtsey: http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/brahmins-one-of-the-poorest-and-maligned-castes-in-india/

    Brahmins : One of the poorest and maligned ‘Castes’ in India
    There are 50 Sulabh Shauchalayas (public toilets) in Delhi; all of them are cleaned and looked after by Brahmins (this very welcome public institution was started by a Brahmin). A far cry from the elitist image that Brahmins have!
    There are five to six Brahmins manning each Shauchalaya. They came to Delhi eight to ten years back looking for a source of income, as they were a minority in most of their villages, where Dalits are in majority (60 per cent to 65 per cent). In most villages in UP and Bihar, Dalits have a union which helps them secure jobs in villages.
    Did you know that you also stumble upon a number of Brahmins working as coolies at Delhi’s railway stations? One of them, Kripa Shankar Sharma, says while his daughter is doing her Bachelors in Science he is not sure if she will secure a job.
    “Dalits often have five to six kids, but they are confident of placing them easily and well,” he says. As a result, the Dalit population is increasing in villages. He adds: “Dalits are provided with housing, even their pigs have spaces; whereas there is no provision for gaushalas (cowsheds) for the cows of the Brahmins.”
    You also find Brahmin rickshaw pullers in Delhi. 50 per cent of Patel Nagar’s rickshaw pullers are Brahmins who like their brethren have moved to the city looking for jobs for lack of employment opportunities and poor education in their villages.
    Even after toiling the whole day, Vijay Pratap and Sidharth Tiwari, two Brahmin rickshaw pullers, say they are hardly able to make ends meet. These men make about Rs 100 to Rs 150 on an average every day from which they pay a daily rent of Rs 25 for their rickshaws and Rs 500 to Rs 600 towards the rent of their rooms which is shared by 3 to 4 people or their families.
    Did you also know that most rickshaw pullers in Banaras are Brahmins?
    This reverse discrimination is also found in bureaucracy and politics. Most of the intellectual Brahmin Tamil class has emigrated outside Tamil Nadu. Only 5 seats out of 600 in the combined UP and Bihar assembly are held by Brahmins(2006) — the rest are in the hands of the Yadavs.

    75 per cent of domestic help and cooks in Andhra Pradesh are Brahmins. A study of the Brahmin community in a district in Andhra Pradesh (Brahmins of India by J Radhakrishna, published by Chugh Publications) reveals that today all purohits live below the poverty line.
    Eighty per cent of those surveyed stated that their poverty and traditional style of dress and hair (tuft) had made them the butt of ridicule. Financial constraints coupled with the existing system of reservations for the ‘backward classes’ prevented them from providing secular education to their children.
    Who are the real ‘Dalits’ of India?
    In fact, according to this study there has been an overall decline in the number of Brahmin students. With the average income of Brahmins being less than that of non-Brahmins, a high percentage of Brahmin students drop out at the intermediate level. In the 5 to 18 year age group, 44 per cent Brahmin students stopped education at the primary level and 36 per cent at the pre-matriculation level.
    The study also found that 55 per cent of all Brahmins lived below the poverty line.......

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  67. Dear All Friends

    See the world where is we and where is all world, we behave other human less then an animal are only and only because of Cast system. So my young Generation people beware of that, the world is going higher and higher is science and live better to better and we live as animals due to cast systems, we all are separate from each other, hate each other.
    This is time to remove cast system, I pray to all get and do more love to other cast find your life partner from other cast, do not get arange wedding (KYON KI TUMHARE BAAP KO DAHEJ MILEGA OR TUMHAIN BHI APNI BAHAN KI SHADI MEIN DAHEJ DENA HOGA- MERI NAJAR MEIN YE BURI PARAMPARA HAI JO AMIR-GHAMANDI-NAKLI IJJATDAR LOGON NE SHURU KI-) do love and find love in another cast IF YOU HAVE DARE TO DO THAT I THINK YOU ARE YOUNG REALLY- AND I SALLUTE YOU.

    Alas! I think very few have dare to do that.
    if you do, you build a GREAT HUMAN CHAIN IN INDIA

    THANKS! IN ADVANCE


    RAJENDRA-9268798084

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  68. It is a fake assumption that Bramhins did some thing to others ...

    Ancient days no banks no jobs no money like to day the. How can Bramhins restrict jobs of others when there are no jobs???

    Bramhins if discriminated some one how will they do prayers in temples constructed by non Bramhins??

    It is all fake things created when British came to India ... British people did this division

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  69. I read the article and most of the comments above. Subhodeep is one of the Authors I am reading nowadays on various blogs. I like the efforts you are putting on these topics. India , a spiritual land need more work on this and I see many more are working as a passion. It need to bee institutionalize as a new social structure.

    And what I feel is, its not about just one caste. Hinduism as a complete religion is at stake...Sorry it was at stake in past not now, but most of its shine lost in past journey of brutal conquered . Now with the writers like Subhodeep and many others i feel good days are coming.

    People with same thoughts from different caste should unite to form something new, a time based structure. I am from backword caste and there are many of my friends from similar castes who are of thought that reservation should end and it should be financial status based that to for education only not for jobs.

    Hope we will come to the solution in near future. Jai Hind!


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  70. Brahmins (along with Sanatan Dharma) has survived at least 3500-6000 Years & contributed lot in Indian civilisation. However today it is a heated word in political context. Blame partly goes to 1200 years of foreign occupation & partly to Brahmins themselves. Caste system was devised to split jobs & responsibilities within ancient society. Everyone here forgets the fact that Brahmin's never took power and materialistic pleasures in ancient India. Their job was to remain poor and contribute to the society with their research work. However around 100AD, caste system became rigid. Genetic & various studies have proved that people were assigned jobs as per their profession and not birth. In today's India, need is to shift towards old system. I wont mind a lower caste becoming Brahmin if he deserves so. However I know this will not be an acceptable fact. Hence solution is that Brahmins look inward and support each other rather than demanding reservation which will never be given to us. Why not richest of Brahmins contribute towards Brahmins only privately run educational Institutes to support Poor fellow Brahmins & sharpest minds among Brahmin donate free man hours as Teachers & coaches.

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  71. This is an excellent idea! Brahmins only institution where our children can study without bias. We have not sinned. We are sinned upon.

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  72. Caste system was formed based on the nature of work a person does some 2000 years ago,And I think much as changed since then now majority of Indian's work for corporate companies.
    The reservation is not removed just because of political structure of india,The system is so corrupte any one can give lower caste and get a caste certificate by bribeing the officials, The mindset of the people should change or this will continue on and on

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    1. Thanks . Subject is good, population isn't correct Konkani, Kashmiri, madheshi, many more are not counted.

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